To Contract AND Not to Contract; There is No Question
Posted on Jun 4th, 2007
by
Whitewave
I don't know if I'm intuiting something important or not, but I think I am.
It seems to me now that everything that exists can be seen as a Contraction which creates Shadow. Everything. To exist means to be located in a place and time which means there is also a place and time where you do not exist. Only that which is beyond existing and not existing can do both. So, I guess I have to agree with the Atheists who say that God does not exist. If we understand existence as a small sub-section of that which transcends existence, then I gotta hand it to 'em: God would, logically, include existing and not existing. But I doubt that's what they're talking about. When humans speak of God, we're mainly concerning ourselves with the part Who does Exist.
Hence, my point.
Once something is committed to being, a space and time where it is not, also emerges. You cannot create something without also creating the non-existence of it. Before a thing existed, it's non-existence didn't exist yet either. Call it condensation or contraction or whatever. First, there is a field of potential, then a thing emerges simultaneously alongside of it's opposite or non-thing.
As humans, we have great power to create. But we create without awareness of this Shadow creation. I want my personal space to be beautiful, therefore I decorate and arrange my things artfully around me. We do not usually acknowledge what happens when we do this - that we therefore also create space where, what we think of as beautiful, does not exist. Without realizing what we've done, we've powerfully created a space of ugliness - which is prolly fairly large since we can't decorate the whole world.
Another example: I want to generate kindness. Therefore I adopt a manner of behavior and attitude which includes as much of what the majority of humans consider kind as I can. This seems simple enough and a wonderful goal. But without knowing it I've also generated the opposite of this kindness. My desire has begun a process which chooses one thing over another, leaving behind the other, creating a pile of rejected others. Others like being indiferent to the needs or sufferings of other people or causing pain to other people.
I am only aware of the thing I have intended: kindness. By rejecting the impulse to be indiferent or cruel within myself, I have also rejected that impulse in other people. Those other people do not necessarily feel inspired by my rejection. They may just feel rejected. And that which exists but is rejected, will assert itself. What you resist, shall persist. And we're as sick as our secrets. Those rejected other people will gather around the pile of rejected behaviors and attitudes and protect and assert it with or without our permission. We have unwittingly created and strengthened our "enemy".
Everything that exists has this Shadow. Everything.
God. Me and you. The earth. The Universe. An atom. A beautiful painting. A thought. A drop of rain.
It seems to me that the Eastern Spiritual Traditions have recognised this and have tried to help us turn this thing around and disempower the suffering which comes as a result of the lack of existence of those things which we have intended. Sort of, run the tape backwards and dissolve everything so that all we have left is that field of potential and there's no existence and no Shadow and no one gets hurt.
Isn't that regressive?
I've been watching (as closely as I have time for) Andrew Cohen's Spiritual Community and reading his convos with Ken Wilber. This morning I was perusing the Zaadzsters page and found a profile who looked inneresting to me so I followed it. It lead me to a website for a Teacher named simply, Thomas. Who knew that the Germans could achieve enlightenment?! As I listened to a video of Thomas talking about some of the problems inherent with Spiritual Communities, I started to see the problem very clearly. Some individuals seem to be able to achieve the essence of enlightenment fairly well (others lose it when they must interact with the normal world), but communities get stuck in the idea of enlightenment. How do we get communities to achieve the essense? A teacher with a very Powerful Presence can sometimes generate enough Transmission to keep all the members of a Community in a sort of gelatinous state of enlightenment. In order to function within that Community, an individual must reject a certain amount of their autonomy so they don't sow discord into the We-Space. It's a fragile bond that breaks easily.
What if that too is regressive?
What if there is another way? A way forward. A way that doesn't run into a glass ceiling and stay stuck in the idea of enlightenment. A way that includes all that has come before us and achieves what is ahead of us - rejecting nothing. A way that includes our autonomy, our desire, and everything that we have unintentionally generated as Shadow by creating what we wanted? What emerges when we run the tape forward instead of backward? Something besides entropy? Is there another possibility?
There are alot of folks who are certain that I am asking the wrong questions. That I don't really understand things correctly, and therefore am confused. But I don't think that is right.
Out of the field of possibility has emerged what Is - both what was intended as well as it's Shadow. The mechanism of creation is, always has been and always will be - Contraction. Reversing the mechanism of Contraction returns our awareness to that field of possibility - the only place with no Shadow. But on the way to losing Shadow, we've also lost Existence. Ramana saw this. It was a price he was willing to pay. Nietzsche saw it, but was not willing.
Is that really the price we have to pay? And when existence asserts itself and gets all up in our face and disrupts our serenity, is that a price we really can pay?
I think there must be another way.
~Ww
It seems to me now that everything that exists can be seen as a Contraction which creates Shadow. Everything. To exist means to be located in a place and time which means there is also a place and time where you do not exist. Only that which is beyond existing and not existing can do both. So, I guess I have to agree with the Atheists who say that God does not exist. If we understand existence as a small sub-section of that which transcends existence, then I gotta hand it to 'em: God would, logically, include existing and not existing. But I doubt that's what they're talking about. When humans speak of God, we're mainly concerning ourselves with the part Who does Exist.
Hence, my point.
Once something is committed to being, a space and time where it is not, also emerges. You cannot create something without also creating the non-existence of it. Before a thing existed, it's non-existence didn't exist yet either. Call it condensation or contraction or whatever. First, there is a field of potential, then a thing emerges simultaneously alongside of it's opposite or non-thing.
As humans, we have great power to create. But we create without awareness of this Shadow creation. I want my personal space to be beautiful, therefore I decorate and arrange my things artfully around me. We do not usually acknowledge what happens when we do this - that we therefore also create space where, what we think of as beautiful, does not exist. Without realizing what we've done, we've powerfully created a space of ugliness - which is prolly fairly large since we can't decorate the whole world.
Another example: I want to generate kindness. Therefore I adopt a manner of behavior and attitude which includes as much of what the majority of humans consider kind as I can. This seems simple enough and a wonderful goal. But without knowing it I've also generated the opposite of this kindness. My desire has begun a process which chooses one thing over another, leaving behind the other, creating a pile of rejected others. Others like being indiferent to the needs or sufferings of other people or causing pain to other people.
I am only aware of the thing I have intended: kindness. By rejecting the impulse to be indiferent or cruel within myself, I have also rejected that impulse in other people. Those other people do not necessarily feel inspired by my rejection. They may just feel rejected. And that which exists but is rejected, will assert itself. What you resist, shall persist. And we're as sick as our secrets. Those rejected other people will gather around the pile of rejected behaviors and attitudes and protect and assert it with or without our permission. We have unwittingly created and strengthened our "enemy".
Everything that exists has this Shadow. Everything.
God. Me and you. The earth. The Universe. An atom. A beautiful painting. A thought. A drop of rain.
It seems to me that the Eastern Spiritual Traditions have recognised this and have tried to help us turn this thing around and disempower the suffering which comes as a result of the lack of existence of those things which we have intended. Sort of, run the tape backwards and dissolve everything so that all we have left is that field of potential and there's no existence and no Shadow and no one gets hurt.
Isn't that regressive?
I've been watching (as closely as I have time for) Andrew Cohen's Spiritual Community and reading his convos with Ken Wilber. This morning I was perusing the Zaadzsters page and found a profile who looked inneresting to me so I followed it. It lead me to a website for a Teacher named simply, Thomas. Who knew that the Germans could achieve enlightenment?! As I listened to a video of Thomas talking about some of the problems inherent with Spiritual Communities, I started to see the problem very clearly. Some individuals seem to be able to achieve the essence of enlightenment fairly well (others lose it when they must interact with the normal world), but communities get stuck in the idea of enlightenment. How do we get communities to achieve the essense? A teacher with a very Powerful Presence can sometimes generate enough Transmission to keep all the members of a Community in a sort of gelatinous state of enlightenment. In order to function within that Community, an individual must reject a certain amount of their autonomy so they don't sow discord into the We-Space. It's a fragile bond that breaks easily.
What if that too is regressive?
What if there is another way? A way forward. A way that doesn't run into a glass ceiling and stay stuck in the idea of enlightenment. A way that includes all that has come before us and achieves what is ahead of us - rejecting nothing. A way that includes our autonomy, our desire, and everything that we have unintentionally generated as Shadow by creating what we wanted? What emerges when we run the tape forward instead of backward? Something besides entropy? Is there another possibility?
There are alot of folks who are certain that I am asking the wrong questions. That I don't really understand things correctly, and therefore am confused. But I don't think that is right.
Out of the field of possibility has emerged what Is - both what was intended as well as it's Shadow. The mechanism of creation is, always has been and always will be - Contraction. Reversing the mechanism of Contraction returns our awareness to that field of possibility - the only place with no Shadow. But on the way to losing Shadow, we've also lost Existence. Ramana saw this. It was a price he was willing to pay. Nietzsche saw it, but was not willing.
Is that really the price we have to pay? And when existence asserts itself and gets all up in our face and disrupts our serenity, is that a price we really can pay?
I think there must be another way.
~Ww
Tagged with: everything, existence, Anaximander, Aperion, what is, non-existence, potential, possibility, Nietzsche, Ramana Maharishi, contract

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how can you be asking the wrong questions? they are your questions, and so you must ask them. seek and you shall find.
i think you have hit the nail on the head with communities getting stuck on the idea of enlightment. you see that in a number of pods here, as in many religious communities. enlightenment is quite apart from all this.
there must be a way that includes really living!
hugs!
Hi, Nicole.
I have alot of critics. Very excitable ones. Many people have taken issue with the kinds of questions I ask. I am always questioning those things which most people take for granted and pointing out things that most others are trying to ignore. Groups form around certain questions, answers and ideas. This means they automatically exclude questions and answers and ideas that are Shadows of their favored intents. Then I come along and the shit hits the fan.
I don't do this randomly or try to destroy things, tho many people project that onto me. I pick my battles carefully and choose only things which I think are worth refining. If I didn't care, I wouldn't bother.
I have done alot of seeking on some of these questions, but have found few adequate answers. It's always been that way for me. I find a group, like their intent but find the Achilles' Heel and when I bring it up, get nothing helpful from inside the group. They don't like my questions. It sometimes takes years of trial and error on my own to find the solution. Then if I try and bring that to the group and they reject it, I get reamed. Eventually, I have to let them go and move on and this is very painful and lonely. This has happened to me since early childhood. I have to look at that and acknowledge that.
I didn't really hit the nail, Thomas did. I was just using his hitting as confirmation of what I was seeing from a different angle. He's got the “trunk of the elephant”, Nietzsche has the “tail”. God bless the Germans! I'm trying to put together those elements and describe the whole animal.
The animal I'm seeing is the problem of how regressive some/most people's practice of enlightenment is. It is undoing creation because the existence that also generates Shadow or “opposite” or “negative” is, what Anaximander described as, a “crime”. Samsara. The East describes it as “illusion”. All that polemic only goes to show how not ready we are to embrace what is: the pain of going without what we need or want and having what we do not want.
We all talk a great talk about this and believe it as long as it's focusing on our favorite, pet issues. We say that war is the rejection of the other so we shouldn't have war. Why shouldn't we have war? War is what is? Why can't we accept what is? Has our rejection of war made it go away or lessened it's cruelties? Hasn't hating war made us guilty of warfare ourselves - the very thing we supposedly reject?
Consciously regressing to the point where war does not exist within us does not really deal with things as they are. It gives us an inneresting snapshot of what God saw just before He/She said, “Let there be Light!” or whatever, but why should that be the same as what God sees at the end of things - whatever that is. I get the eternity thing. Unchanging. Unconditioned. But how do we know that is what we really need to use as a target? Sure, it's comforting to go there, but why should comfort be our goal? What if our existence was meant to create a different Infinity that could not have existed before suffering, but only after? A better and more comprehensive one than pre-existence - ontologically or historically.
From what I'm seeing of humanity and how we've handled “enlightenment” so far, we're really not ready to use it for more than a numbing agent - just another way to avoid feeling things or accepting things as they are. Therefore, I don't think we deserve to handle it at all. It's like a scepter that belongs to the King, and we have no right to touch it.
I think we need to attend to our motives for seeking enlightenment before we can create it, otherwise we're unconsciously creating the Shadow of enlightenment and acting as if we can have one without the other - completely missing the point.
~Ww
I can believe that you feel lonely or maybe more correctly, alone. At times I wonder if I am the only sane person in a crowd of insane ones or if it's the other way around - you know how it is. But you manage to express these thoughts so poignantly and convincingly, something I'm not as good at, and thus the belief in what I think and feel regarding these issues tends to be volatile. I miss your eloquent insights as I could use more of it to keep myself going! My increasingly complicated and challenging life can only make sense from the perspective that we share. It is extremely bewildering, however, to be confronted with the reductionist views of the majority on a constant basis. I dare no longer bring out my criticism and (I hate to admit it), complaints; the prize I have to pay for speaking along these lines is too great. I hope that you will come back and that us, the “misfits', can continue supporting each other in an endeavor that can only be simple in a contracted world. “Undoing creation”, that's a great way of putting it. Right on the spot as far as I can see! V-M
dear vivi-mari, i miss whitewave too! sorry you feel so marginalized… that is a very difficult place to be on top of everything else you are going through
love
nicole